By: rugfish

rugfish — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:19:16 +0000

Mr Meacher, I guess you’ve listened or read of Jim Rogers feelings about the UK bank bailout, and his thoughts that Britain will never recover from it. If he is right, then Lloyds TSB are not the only one’s to be taking measures against as Gordon Brown will have single handedly bankrupted our nation which requires a far higher penalty than any given against Lloyds.
Also, you might like to consider this, along with the “brush off answer” I received from the minister of Europe Mr Jim Murphy, which basically said it was “interesting”.
For the Record……
Detailed minutes of meetings held between Prime Minister Heath and French President Pompidou, regarding Britain’s entry to the EEC or “Common Market” as they called it, are available for the public from Margaret Thatcher’s archives.
http://www.margaretthatcher.org/archive/heath-eec.asp
Although the files are easily viewed in pdf online, I’ve placed the full records along with a sample in my documents folder here: http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/6689197?from_badge_documents_button=1
And on my blog here: http://rugfish.blogspot.com/2009/01/how-british-were-conned-into-europe.html#links
Meetings held between the two leaders concerning the future of both the United Kingdom and The Common Market are shown here to explain how and why the British Public were misled to believe they were being asked to join “just a common market”, when asked 2 years later to hold a referendum AFTER Heath took us in.
It must be remembered that we were not party to these talks, nor were the media, and that when we joined the “Common Market”, the British Public was not told of the consequences of joining as outlined 2 years earlier by these minutes and subsequent treaties which further integrate the country with the now “European Union”.
My storage holds a full account specifically of these meetings to make them easier to find when researching, and currently include the minutes of further meetings between Heath and Pompidou as given account by former British ambassador Lord Soames.
For the record, they are all freely available under the Freedom of Information Act and are of course no longer secret however they are not generally known and are much ignored as to the meaning of their content by today’s politician’s.
Margaret Thatcher’s account is thus; ( extract ) :-
Quote:
At the heart of the summit was a simple question, posed by Pompidou to Heath in their tête à tête: was Britain ready to make “a historic change in (its) attitude”, a “fundamental choice” in favour of the European Community? Although detailed negotiating points occupied much of the eleven hours of talks, the exchanges on this subject (at the beginning of the first and second sessions) mattered most. Heath was probably the first British Prime Minister in history who could have truthfully answered “yes” to that question, and he was very likely the only one who had a chance of being believed when he said it. His credibility in this respect drew heavily on his coolness towards Britain’s traditional ally, the United States, as to which he left Pompidou in no doubt.
A further account by the writer:
Quote:
For good or ill, the summit achieved everything Heath could have hoped; it was perhaps the highpoint of his political career. The entry talks in Brussels came to life the following month and outstanding problems were successfully resolved. The British Government was able to begin the task of pushing the necessary legislation through Parliament and bringing the sceptical British public into line.
Perhaps when you familiarise yourself with these documents which attest to the British Public having been duped, you could ask why and what is to be done about that too ?
I take time to read your blog and I agree with the things you say incidentally and hope you continue to promote your thoughts which make a lot of sense.
Regards,
Rugfish

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